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On the afternoon of 9/16, expect at least 1000 motorcycles to make their way on WB 270 from Route 3 through North County as the infamous annual ride known as Ride of the Century makes its return.  The organizers keep the exact route details under wraps but almost every year that this event is run they have used this section of 270. (2013 was an exception due to the weather.)

If you are wondering why this post has to be made every year, it is not about giving these people attention – its about warning the people that use this section of 270 about the illegal acts that they may engage. We have not seen any sideshows or rolling freeway shutdowns up here in the past years, but we have seen incidents and a lot of wheelies.

Speaking of incidents, this one last year still grinds the gears a bit:

This video is from two years ago

What you should expect:

  1. Rolling mainline closures anytime between 13:00 to 17:00 on Saturday.  The exact time they cross will be random but in past years it was between 14:30 to 15:30.
  2. People involved in the ride will be making poor decisions.  With at least 1000 motorcycles involved there will always be “that guy” moments.
  3. Professional stunt bike riders will likely be in the front of the pack.
  4. Heavier than normal police enforcement – Saturday has been a major speed trap enforcement day on 270 in recent weeks – don’t be surprised to see bears in the air.

If you get caught up, give these riders the right of way but do not pull over.  Most of these riders will be making use of the shoulders.

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MoDOT has announced lane restrictions on 270 between 170 and the river bridge from 20:00 to 05:00 on weeknights, weather permitting.

If this isn’t enough, though there has been no official announcement the IDOT traffic info map is tipping this one off for next month:

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Really need to discuss a possible severe weather threat but since the SPC is putting this section of 270 on the fringes of the threat yet again the admins have decided instead to mouth off at a recent problem:

That incident during the evening peak last week caused at least two tire blowouts, one just to the east of Lilac and the second closer to the Riverview exit. Traffic was backed up to 367 and this was not the only alleged tire blowout reported.

Yesterday one of the admins drove by at least three blowouts between Lilac and 111. One of the vehicles lost an entire front right tire and was partially blocking an exit ramp waiting for help. There is a good 10 mile section of 270 between New Halls Ferry and 255 that tire debris is common place and the mainline pavement is a piece of shit (complete with a massive pothole at or near the 28.8 MM on the Missouri side and another just to the east of Route 203 – both in the eastbound lanes).  The very worse of the pavement is between Route 3 and Troy with both mainline lanes resembling the “washboard” pavement (complete with the apparent last resurfacing project approximately 20 years ago) from the heavy tractor-trailer usage.  There is another alleged spot on the westbound lanes of the river bridge just before the Riverview exit that looks like any attempt of a patching job ultimately fails over a period of time.

This has caused a lot of tires blowing out with at least 10 incidents since last week.  While the rainy weather has contributed, the tire blowouts usually occur when the temperatures are pushing 100 degrees, not 60 degrees.  With warmer weather out there the crews will likely be putting up the orange cones somewhere in this area this year although no major work has been announced.

The incident from this morning doesn’t appear to be from a blowout but there are pieces of tire visible in the foreground.

 

While the NWS DOES NOT have Winter Weather Advisories in effect for this area (but they do have in effect in the counties along and north of I-72), snow is expected to come just before the Monday morning peak:

While the ground temperatures are above freezing, an recent cold snap and the fact nobody has seen the white stuff for two months may mean very slick roads. (There has been more severe weather outbreaks than inches of snow this season to put this in perspective.) With that in mind combined with a recent run of terrible form when it comes to the North County drive (with last week AM peak fatal MVA on WB 270 in consideration), the admins made the decision to put the AM peak at HIGH risk. (It is also a full moon out there as well so people may be driving much more crazier than normal.)

While not a lot of snow is expected (the worst is expected to remain to the north), the timing can cause big problems as it does not take a lot of snow to cause gridlock, given that 270 up in North County is hilly and the 1-3 inch range is where people often get complacent when it comes to snow.

Today marks the 20th anniversary of one of the biggest epic fails when it comes to the Clark Bridge commute – and a record setting traffic jam on eastbound 270 that allegedly lasted 20 miles and went into a Saturday morning.

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The Alton Telegraph front page from March 1, 1997

If you have been wondering why February 28, 1997 is not on the notable incidents list, that front page is a good explanation why.  The incident actually happened on Route 143 where it meets the Clark Bridge and happened at the stoplight.  How come it lead to a traffic nightmare on 270, a delay of a high school basketball game between the two biggest rivals, and a long evening for thousands of Riverbend residents?

There were several factors that came into play that afternoon:

  • Incident happened around 14:30, right before the start of the evening peak period.
  • It was a Friday afternoon, typically the busiest day of the week on 270.
  • That infamous construction project on 270 between Lilac and 255 was underway where one mainline lane was closed, a second mainline lane was being used as a “reversible lane” that only went eastbound during a 5 hour time window during week days.  This construction zone by itself was a traffic nightmare during the peak periods and for several months the Friday evening peak was a horror show regardless of the weather.  Incidents that happened in the construction zone happened almost every day, especially in the area near Route 111 and again near Route 3.  If that wasn’t bad enough, there were 8’6″ width restriction for the river bridge and a legal weight restriction.
  • There was another road construction project underway in North County on I-70.
  • 255 was not open north of 270.  (That would not occur for another 18 months.)
  • 270 still had the left exit at 170.  The section of 270 between 370 and New Florissant was a notorious choke point during the peak hour back then and it is still is twenty years later.
  • 367 was still in its very infamous configuration north of 270.

The incident happened when a tanker truck allegedly took the right turn from Landmarks to the southbound lanes of the Clark Bridge too fast and overturns.  The nature of the tanker truck forced the emergency crews no choice but to close the Clark Bridge in both directions (note the incident actually didn’t happen on the bridge), Route 143 from Route 3 to the Clark Bridge, and sections of 140 and 67.  367 remained open until the Fisca station but that is where people were being forced to turn around and return to 270.

How come the epic traffic jam formed on 270?  First of all, the Clark Bridge is the main alternate route when it comes to this section of 270.  Locals will use that bridge as an first choice alternate before any other bridge.  Conversely, when the Clark Bridge got closed for any reason the first choice alternate to those locals in the Riverbend was 270.  Back in the late 1980s and early 1990s, closures on the Clark Bridge were common as the old bridge was still in use and almost every school district in the Riverbend mandated the school buses going into North County take 270.  While the new bridge put the end of a lot of those closures, the southbound lanes were still prone to flooding, there was an epic fail on 270 in 1994 that forced all traffic through Alton for days, and the consequences that occur when you couldn’t take 367 out of Alton were still fresh on the locals minds.

270 up in North County and in Illinois was a major trucking corridor, and while none of the distribution center buildings were built at the time of this incident, it was an common fact that at least 20-25% of the traffic was truck traffic.  Despite the construction, width limits, and weight limits, truckers decided that 270 through North County was a much better route than 70 through the City of St. Louis and decided to take the gamble.

The moment that the incident went around the radio stations, it was clear that anyone that normally went 270 across the infamous “Bridges of Madison County” were blurting out a lot of choice words.  This incident came at a time where there was no social media, cell phones did not have cameras, and text messaging was unheard of.

Westbound 270 would back up from 255 to Lilac, which was not an unusual sight on a Friday afternoon back in 1997.  What was unusual was that it went into the night.  The westbound drivers actually had it easy that night.  What about eastbound traffic?  It was the normal delay that happened between Dorsett and 70 and again from 370 to New Florissant.  Those delays were not unusual and started to occur at their usual times.  What wasn’t usual: the delay that went from New Florissant to 255, and to an lesser extent, the delay between 70 and 370.  There was an obvious traffic jam approaching Lilac, and past that point traffic went much slower than normal with a big choke point at Route 3.  The traffic jam across the river bridge was going strong even at midnight, which was very unusual even with the construction project underway.

The so called reversible lane?  Unless you were on 270 before Lilac and had no intention of exiting the mainline prior to Route 157, that lane was as good as useless and having an fail in that lane rendered you SOL.  In fact, it was set to westbound by default and unless it was a 5 hour window from Monday-Friday afternoon, all you had was a single eastbound lane.  All the problems in that construction zone were so bad that a state legislator from a neighboring district went out of the way to demand traffic cameras to be installed along the 270 mainline, media coverage of all the incidents was a common occurrence, and the locals knew to use the back roads.

Thus, there were choke points at Route 3 and 111 during this mess as the people were trying to get back into the Riverbend.  255 was NOT OPEN north of 270 when this happened, 111 was still a 2 lane road, and there were a lack of east-west alternate routes in this area on both sides of the river.

About the traffic nightmare in the Riverbend itself?  For several weeks prior to the accident, there were radio personalities on at least two stations bragging about Fast Eddies, and in fact there was a radio ad for that restaurant in Alton that bragged about the new Clark Bridge as the “Fast Eddies” bridge.  Being a Friday night, it was certain that a live band with a well known local reputation was playing at that bar and the locals were going to show up.  With 143 suddenly off limits west of Route 3, the traffic overloaded Route 3 and Broadway into downtown Alton, and College Avenue leading towards Alton High School.  There was an high school basketball game that night at Alton against one of their biggest conference rivals, it was senior night there, and a conference title was at stake.  The traffic jam caused the game to be delayed because their rival couldn’t navigate the traffic jam on 143 and take the back way into the the gymnasium.

What counter measures came from the incident?  Actually none came from it as it as passed off as a fluke.  It would take another fatal accident in North County two years later to force a change on 270 at 170.  The construction project reversible lane tactic has not been used since, at least in the St. Louis area.  It took another epic fail on 270 before the right turn lane from Landmarks to the southbound Clark Bridge got modified.  The only true countermeasure was the change of how the radio ads were made by Fast Eddies, as the bragging came to a stop soon after this incident.  Crowd control tactics from MoDOT and IDOT would improve over a period of time but that didn’t happen overnight.

And what about the weather:  not a cloud in the sky with temperatures around 50.  It was clearly not a factor for this epic fail.  The epic fail in question was not cleared until 2 in the morning the following day.

The word goes when there is one big incident, there is another within a short time frame.  Whether you treat this one and/or the one that happened in West County yesterday as such, please keep in mind this is the time of the year that the big ones have a tendency to happen.

When it came to both incidents that happened today (the one on the canal bridge this morning and the river bridge during the ensuing evening peak), the admins missed both of them.  One was at work and the other two were asleep on the first one (late nights mean sleeping through the mornings), and all were at work for the second one.  The page cannot be monitored on a 24/7 basis so please make use of these facebook groups:

Meanwhile this morning several vehicles were involved in this morning peak hour incident on the canal bridge:

This one backed up traffic to 111 and someone bragged that it took over 90 minutes to get from the Riverbend to Chesterfield via 270 this morning. This incident only took 30-40 minutes to get cleared but happened in the busiest hour of the morning.

Meanwhile the evening peak did not get off to a good start:

It took 20 minutes to clear this minor incident on the river bridge at the beginning of the evening peak. This one also happened westbound.

Both incidents paled in comparison to the two big ones that happened on 270 yesterday – just that it happened in West County and caused 9 long hours of traffic nightmares for some of the people that use 270 out of the Riverbend and then head towards West County:

And this came following a morning peak incident up in North County that managed to back up traffic towards 367:

It is safe to say that 270 has been a beast during the morning peak the past few weeks. Any other words to describe it would likely require NSFW warnings.

The latest winter winter event brought at least 3 mainline incidents between Routes 367 and Route 3 and possibly a few more that we missed. Two of the incidents were at Lilac on the hill. The Friday evening peak was much lighter than normal and the majority of people took the warnings and stayed home.

The video posted during the event happened somewhere in West County near Highway 40.

This section of 270 has been known to be a speed trap target by the Illinois State Police in recent weeks. Last weekend they caught someone allegedly going 100 on 255 just north of 270:

When the admins post about the traffic enforcement going on 270, usually at least one ISP vehicle has been spotted along 270. Last week there were 3 vehicles pulled over westbound at one time. Please slow down and move over for them.


From 16:00 to 19:00 on Thursday, December 15, MoDOT will conduct a public meeting at McCluer High School at 1896 S. New Florissant Road.  Attendees will have an opportunity to tell it “as it is” for 2 minutes OR provide a written comment.  For citizens unable to attend there will be a time window where comments may be provided online with a deadline of January 6, 2017.  A preferred alternative has been determined.

This is the last chance of making MoDOT hear the heat so make it count.  The admins are obviously unhappy at the recent release of the draft maps so far as it appears little improvements will be done at Lilac and Riverview interchanges and no mainline lanes added (seems like an exit only lane from Lilac to Riverview).  In addition it seems like it will not happen before IDOT gets around in finishing their own study.

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Residents of North County and the Riverbend came out to pay their final respects and some of the admins on this site did the same.  (One of the admins was unable to take part due to employment reasons.(







The procession was over 20 miles long and took over an hour to complete. Since the procession affected the Clark Bridge drive, the admins had no choice but to monitor the event.

The prayers are with the family.

The admins have been monitoring the death of the St. Louis County police officer that happened last week due to the fact the officer had ties to the Riverbend.

Anyone that uses the Clark Bridge or the section from 270 from 367 to 40 needs be aware that anytime between 11:00 to 14:00 on Thursday – there will be a rolling NB/EB FULL mainline closure that will only occur when the funeral procession makes its way from the Family Church in Chesterfield to the cemetery off Route 3 in Godfrey.


This image above is the tentative procession route from the church to the cemetery.

Once the procession crosses the Clark Bridge, there will be additional traffic restrictions in the Riverbend, however, the public will be allowed to line the route to pay their final respects.

With this option given, please refrain from using the overpasses along 270 between 40 and 367 – there is only one pedestrian only overpass along the entire section, and the remaining overpasses have very heavy traffic on a normal basis. However, it is possible to line Pershall at various locations along 270 between Lindbergh and 367 – please note that it it completely continuous road – notably the section between New Florissant and Washington/Elizabeth. (The section between Washington/Elizabeth to West Florissant is the preferred area to line up if using Pershall Road – plenty of public parking at various locations.)

Once the procession from the church begins, it will take approximately 30 minutes from the procession to get on 270 from 40 to the time it gets off 270 at 367, and another 15 minutes to cross the Clark Bridge.  (Please note the times are approximate and will depend on the size of the procession.)  While the procession will only directly affect NB/EB 270 traffic, anyone going WB across the river bridge needs to be prepared to encounter minor delays once west of 367 when the procession is in progress.

Rolling road closures are better explained on this site.  If you want to see footage of a similar rolling closure, there is something from August in the Granite City area.

NOTE: some of the incidents that will be mentioned actually happened LAST WEEK but with two of the admins being out of the area for most of that week the focus was on Ride of the Century related stuff. 

First here is the video relating to the Ride of the Century that has pissed off the admins so much that it is worth posting it again:

Warning: video contains a lot of profanities.  Please watch with caution.  If you been wondering why Ride of the Century related stuff have to be posted every year, this video is a good reason why.  It is not about giving those crazies the attention: its about warning the truckers that are not familiar with this section of 270 about the stupidity that comes with this event.  One of the incidents that happened on 270 further into North County narrowly missed a tractor-trailer.

Ever since last week started, the evening peak has been anything but smooth sailing.  Last Monday one of the admins stumbled upon this incident on the way home from a work-related function:

It caused the eastbound lanes to back up to 367 and takes nearly 45 minutes to clear. It was just the beginning of a long night despite the fact one of the admins had a very early bedtime due to work:

While this incident did not impact the mainline, it caused ramp closures at Riverview and it was not until midnight before it cleared.

Two days later another eastbound peak hour incident took part near the canal bridge, and around the same time an westbound incident allegedly happened:

The traffic delays went back to 367 on the incident near the canal bridge, and it appeared that the live feed camera at Lilac was suggesting an alleged secondary incident that went unconfirmed.

If the new week was to be an improvement, it wasn’t:

The admins missed this one due to work related reasons but this one was westbound.

Today’s livechat on STLToday brought yet another question regarding the ramp from 270 to Riverview.  That ramp from Riverview to EB 270 is very dangerous and one of the admins knows that ramp very well.  Our pro tip is to come to a stop at the very top of the hill (but still on land, do not stop on the bridge) and wait for an opening and get on the mainline as quickly as possible.  Any countermeasure for this ramp is years away and probably will not occur before IDOT doing something about the river bridge.  However, developers have upped the ante in recent months, MoDOT resumed their North County study, and IDOT started their own study earlier this year.

Regarding the recent trend of crunch time starting as early as 06:30 up in North County, one of the admins have confirmed that.  The reason why it slows down at 367 is that the ramps between Old Halls Ferry and West Florissant is poorly designed and any incident at that time of the morning can back up traffic to the canal bridge.  270 up in North County is also hilly, so sight lines do have a role in the problems.  367 is also when all the Clark Bridge regulars get on 270.  There are Facebook groups out there that check traffic status on 367 and 270, so please make use of those groups.