november bs

NOTE: while we don’t condone drink driving usually these big storms people will be making a run for adult beverages on top of the necessary essentials.

 I won’t be sugarcoating the fact the Riverbend could see up to 8 inches (possibly up to 10 or more in localized areas) of snow – and Thanksgiving is still a week away. Personally I will be driving home from work when it gets started but we got another admin that will likely be out in the front lines during the duration of the storm. The original mentality of all or nothing event has been cooled off a little bit but it is still possible that the areas along I-72 gets next to nothing and areas along I-270 and 70 gets over 8 to 10.

This is the type of storm that will close schools in the area but nobody in the Riverbend or North County has called off as I write this.

Road crews will be out in full force, in fact they are probably pretreating right now.



There were very few catchy memes out there regarding snow in the month of November, so this one on imgur will have to do.  It felt like it was the case late Friday evening in the Riverbend area with so many incidents on an inch of snow.  The main difference is that many schools and employers are observing Veterans Day holiday tomorrow so there will be less traffic than normal.

But right now the admins all had one unanimous decision for all of Monday – HIGH RISK. That decision was made up by early Sunday evening. The snow events that tend to have the largest number of incidents tend to be the 0 to 4 inch range, and this storm is well within that range with up to 2 inches of snow being forecast. There is also a chance of mist and/or freezing rain mixing in with this system and this is why I did not notice the mainline having any form of salt brine or other substance used to fight the frozen stuff.

Regarding what happened Friday night (note I was at work during this and did not even pay attention until I got off and even that was very brief), it got very nasty in the Riverbend. The Clark Bridge commute during the evening peak went down the drain the moment it got dark out.

Then there was this on Route 3 between 270 and Wood River

Then allegedly people were posting about incidents on 255 and 270 to the point the State Police had to call in reinforcements. The local police scanners were lit but I wasn’t able to hear a damn thing.  All of this came on one inch of snow.


Just to warn you now, the forecast gets interesting for Thursday as well but it is too far out.  The forecast for Wednesday morning is also a concern – not for the snow but rather another phenomenon called river fog with temperatures flirting with the teens – AKA how this section of 270 gets shut down during the peak periods.

At this time one year ago admins were underscoring the threat of river fog with temperatures in the 20s and that morning went down the drain very quickly.  The main threat today was not the river fog as the strong winds meant unfavorable conditions, but snow.  Last season, most of the snow fell late in the season but when it did fall, it came at relatively poor times.

This morning the threat was at high due to wet roads and borderline temperatures.  The evening was only at medium risk because models were only going with a quick hit and the passing shower.  However, about an hour ago, the NWS issued a Winter Weather Advisory until 9 PM, and it will last through the evening peak.  This has caused the evening risk to get upgraded, but the mentality of the quick hit still remains.

grandma snow

Approximately 13:45 yesterday afternoon, at least one vehicle was involved in an incident eastbound at Lilac.  Although the incident only blocked one lane and appeared to be minor, the lane closures and delays would linger well into the evening peak and it was not cleared before 17:00.

Due to the issues with Spectrum that the majority of the locals were having the past two days, it took longer than expected to get the information out about the incident, and not a lot of other details were disclosed.

It was supposedly not the only incident that happened, as one of the other admins indicated that there was another eastbound incident near the bridges that allegedly took place earlier that day, and there was an peak hour westbound incident east of the bridges:

It was the second straight morning of a peak hour westbound incident as well.

ride of century risk

At least 2000 bikes took part in the infamous tradition that takes place every September in this area and made its way down 270 across the bridges again, but unlike the past three years it did not appear that any mainline incidents happened in the area. (Note that incidents may have happened elsewhere along the ride but there was nothing between Route 3 and Lilac.)

There may have been an alleged fight that happened further into North County

But when one of the admins checked on the 270 mainline after the ride came through there were no obvious signs of any other incident of note:

What did show was westbound hosed up from Route 3 all the way to Lindbergh, even after the last bike had taken the ramp to southbound 170.

When it came to the stunt show, while there were ATV and wheelies, there was nothing outrageous or shocking.

Unlike the past couple years, however, there was a lot more media coverage about this event, possibly the most amount it has gotten since 2013.

UPDATE 9/25/18 at 02:51 – there was additional news media coverage on all three TV stations on Monday and all were mentioning incidents in the downtown area.

UPDATE 9/25/18 at 14:10 – Starting to see more videos surface on social media. I’m also starting to see media from across the country make posts about the ride, but the only portion of the ride that is making the headlines is what happened near downtown St. Louis.

Just like every September, we have to warn everyone of an infamous tradition that tends to go down this section of 270. I much rather not to make a post about it, but as long as the tradition continues, this topic is still necessary to bring up on a annual basis. This ride has been going on for almost 20 years now and it is expected to bring at least 1500 to 2000 motorcyclists. Some of them will be making poor decisions during the ride.

What is shown below are some of the antics they pulled last year. I personally drove through 3 accident scenes on 270 last year during the event. If you must use westbound 270 from Route 3 into North County on Saturday afternoon, I suggest you do it at your own risk and expect delays.

That is just what happened on the canal bridge.

Nothing from last year that popped up on social media went viral, but it only takes one epic fail caught on video or one sinister stunt for that to occur.

Questionable weather may had played a role in this morning peak incident that happened eastbound on the hill just west of the Lilac exit. The risk factor was already set at Medium for the questionable weather, and passing showers made its way through at the wrong time of the day.

This incident blocked the mainline for a while but it was in the eastbound direction:

This topped off a somewhat iffy morning peak with an westbound incident west of 367 that backed up traffic into Illinois

All incidents have cleared and the weather has improved.

taylor swift reputation IDOT trolling

From 16:30 to 18:30 tonight, IDOT has scheduled an open house format public meeting regarding the section of 270 between Riverview to 157.  In fairness, this means anywhere on this section of 270 is considered fair game and feel free to give them some serious heat about how the reputation around here is so infamous.

If you are unable to attend (possibly due to Taylor Swift concert that just happens to be tonight), you will have two weeks to send in the written comments (information will be posted as it becomes available but not before I get off of work early Wednesday morning).

UPDATE 9/19/19 at 13:29

One of the followers sent some private messages that indicated a planned conversion of the 270/111 interchange from a cloverleaf to a diverging diamond but not a lot of other information including the 270 mainline itself.  Right now too many questions that need to be answered.  Obviously the interchange at 111 has much more truck traffic than the DDI at Dorsett.

Late in the 06:00 hour, multiple vehicles were involved in an incident that either happened on or just west of the river bridge right by the Riverview exit

It obviously had to come at a bad time as this was also happening:

It takes almost two hours for the scene to clear and for a brief time westbound was being diverted down the Riverview ramp:

When it came to the morning peak, the damage was done even though the weather did not appear to be a factor:

Delays were pushing at least 90 minutes until the incident was finally cleared late into the 08:00 hour

This incident did not get as much attention as the one last week as the media was focused on the other incident this morning, but did get some media attention:

Shortly after the morning peak ended, approximately at 9:15 this morning, an individual allegedly threatened to jump from the river bridge. The police had no choice but to force all traffic to go through Alton as they negotiated with that person to change their mind.

One of the admins were in the area but at the nearby Moto Mart when it happened and took several photos that were later posted in the comments on this post (intentionally done that way so the Facebook post would transfer to Twitter). One of the admins from this page below was in the canal bridge area


The police were able to talk the person out of it and the highway reopened shortly after 11:10.

UPDATE: 8/14/18 at 02:15 – removed duplicate embeds and added others that were originally missed because of the 3 PM deadline to get stuff posted.

UPDATE 8/22/18 at 02:55 – added another live feed video